tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post1825437477559944717..comments2024-03-02T07:40:22.786+03:00Comments on Only Solitaire blog: Brenda Lee: Reflections In BlueUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-64963130617612751492018-12-05T07:51:03.005+03:002018-12-05T07:51:03.005+03:00"Not every young person in the 60s was into r..."Not every young person in the 60s was into rock" Jaime Vargas says and I totally agree with him, The carpenters´music is an excellent example, sure not the only one (Warwick, Bacharach). <br />Engelbert humperdinck is another good example given by MNb, Tom Jones too, but he did rock music among all the styles he sang.<br />The same could be said for the young people today. There are always ballads, for every generation. There are always moments to sit down <br />or lay and rest listening to something soft or quietJor Bradfortdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11486798708130970725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-56914807518459049482013-11-19T04:41:50.870+04:002013-11-19T04:41:50.870+04:00"a different demographic than the one that co..."a different demographic than the one that constituted probably 80% of the buying market in those days"<br />This I dispute. Not even in my teenage days - largely 1975-1981 - youngsters had that much money to spend. And they far from all spend their money on cutting edge stuff. Just consult:<br /><br />http://www.hitsallertijden.nl/hitdossier60/hitparade/nederland/Vrije%20Volk/1967.htm<br /><br />and see how popular Tom Jones and Engelbert Humperdinck were.<br /><br />Once again it was the same at the end of the 70's. Besides Iggy Pop with Lust for Life there were also Chicago's If you leave me now and various hits by The Brotherhood of Man.MNbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-43083225088382104592013-11-19T00:02:58.871+04:002013-11-19T00:02:58.871+04:00Not to mention Brenda's original audience migh...Not to mention Brenda's original audience might be "old-fashioned" towards cutting edge 60s music. Remember, rock developed at fastest speed in those years. She's from the Elvis generation, and you could easily imagine some old Elvis or Brenda fan in his late 20s - early 30s in 1967, having lost touch with rock's evolution due to other things in life taking center stage. You might have been a rocker, but spend 1964-66 away from the radio and the kids' music in 1967 would be noise to you.Jaime Vargashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14412648861919343738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-40367356223222279642013-11-18T23:44:20.813+04:002013-11-18T23:44:20.813+04:00Who bought that? Well, maybe the same people who b...Who bought that? Well, maybe the same people who bought the Carpenters in the 70s. Not every young person in the 60s was into rock.Jaime Vargashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14412648861919343738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-91880639469447670862013-11-18T23:32:33.605+04:002013-11-18T23:32:33.605+04:00Thanks for the reasonable reply! I'm just esp...Thanks for the reasonable reply! I'm just especially weary of that kind of generalization when it's made seriously. And I agree with you about it's being a pity that Lee got shunted into the land of syrupy strings. Her vocal talent deserved better.Nancy Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622655838552297555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-70683377161994333282013-11-18T22:24:34.033+04:002013-11-18T22:24:34.033+04:00I wasn't positing a serious gender divide that...I wasn't positing a serious gender divide that would suggest that no male teenagers would buy Beatles records. I was just making a very broad generalization as a bit of cultural shorthand for the time. But yeah, I was being a bit too broad.<br /><br />As to who really was buying Brenda Lee products of this type, yes, it probably was middle aged folks who would also buy 101 Strings and Sinatra albums. It's just pathetic that a performer like Brenda Lee, who could have easily been marketed in the same breath with Dusty Springfield or Julie Driscoll, ended up being tarred with the hideous reputation of becoming a female Engelbert instead. <br /><br />Malxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17260547693221778146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-86289683825631731322013-11-18T22:06:44.333+04:002013-11-18T22:06:44.333+04:00Maix, have to disagree with that gender divide you...Maix, have to disagree with that gender divide you're positing. Boys AND girls in 1967 clearly loved the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, for instance. The Stones as guys' guys and the Beatles as girl-pleasing pop stars is a formulation so old, tired, and false it deserves a decent burial.<br /><br />As for who was buying Brenda Lee's product in 67: probably a lot of middle-aged folks, the same ones buying the Montavani and 101 Strings records that can be found at any thrift store today. The market for dinner-party music in the 60s was still strong, and not confined to grandparents.Nancy Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622655838552297555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-34573413095762936002013-11-18T20:48:36.615+04:002013-11-18T20:48:36.615+04:00Who the hell was this particular "product&quo...Who the hell was this particular "product" being marketed at? Certainly not teenagers of either gender - the boys had Cream, Jimi, and the Stones, while the girls had the Beatles, Monkees, and the Mamas and Papas. So, if you realize that Brenda was being purposely marketed at a different demographic than the one that constituted probably 80% of the buying market in those days, you're left with...grandfathers, whose interest in Brenda was probably, at least in part, less than strictly ethical by the prevailing standards of the day, if you know what I mean! Malxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17260547693221778146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-660808341284783109.post-66114714494366915552013-11-18T20:19:10.236+04:002013-11-18T20:19:10.236+04:00At least Barbara Streisand didn't have such an...At least Barbara Streisand didn't have such an outdated haircut as Brenda Lee in 1967.<br /><br />http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/124/barbrakf0.jpg/<br /><br />Normally I don't pay attention to such things as image and quality music aren't exactly related. Brenda Lee largely being a marketing product I think it has some predictive power in her case.<br />Of course I hate the lush violins (the violin is my favourite instrument - but play it like David Oistrakh or Simon House please) as much as always. So jazzy or not, no way I'm going to try this album.MNbnoreply@blogger.com